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#222485 (Received by flhurricane at: 11:17 AM 16.Oct.2008)
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HURRICANE OMAR DISCUSSION NUMBER 13
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL152008
1100 AM EDT THU OCT 16 2008

IT IS SIMPLY AMAZING TO ME AT HOW QUICKLY A HURRICANE CAN SPIN UP
AND JUST AS QUICKLY FALL APART. OMAR REACHED NEAR THE THRESHOLD OF
CATEGORY 4 EARLY THIS MORNING AROUND 06Z AND NOW WE HAVE AN EXPOSED
LOW-LEVEL CENTER SHOWING UP IN THE VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY JUST A
FEW HOURS LATER. SUBJECTIVE AND OBJECTIVE DVORAK TECHNIQUES WERE
SUGGESTING AROUND 90-100 KT AT 12Z. BUT GIVEN THE RAPID
DETERIORATION OF THE CONVECTIVE SIGNATURE...THE CURRENT INTENSITY
IS ESTIMATED...WITH SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTY...TO BE 75 KT.

DESPITE VERY WARM WATERS...THE COMBINATION OF STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR
AND LOW TO MID-LEVEL DRY AIR...AS SEEN IN THE TOTAL PRECIPITABLE
WATER IMAGERY...HAS PRODUCED THE WEAKENING IN OMAR AND WILL LIKELY
CONTINUE TO CAUSE A DECREASE IN ITS INTENSITY. BECAUSE THE TREND
OF OMAR'S INTENSITY WAS NOT CORRECTLY ANALYZED AT SYNOPTIC
TIME...THE STATISTICAL MODELS...SHIPS AND LGEM...ARE PROVIDING
VALUES THAT ARE PROBABLY TOO HIGH. THE FORECAST IS CLOSEST TO THE
HWRF MODEL WHICH DID VERY WELL IN ANTICIPATING THIS MORNING'S RAPID
WEAKENING OF OMAR. AS THE CYCLONE BECOMES EXTRATROPICAL AROUND DAY
4...IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT SIGNIFICANT RE-INTENSIFICATION WILL
TAKE PLACE AT THAT TIME BASED UPON THE GLOBAL MODELS' CONSENSUS.

THE NOW EASY-TO-SEE CENTER DID FORCE US TO MAKE A LAST SECOND
RELOCATION OF THE INITIAL POSITION AS WELL AS THE SHORT TERM TRACK
FORECAST TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MORE SOUTHERN LOCATION THAN AT FIRST
ESTIMATED. THE TRACK GUIDANCE IS CLOSELY CLUSTERED THROUGH 72
HR...BUT THEN SHOWS SIGNIFICANT DIVERGENCE AT DAYS 4 AND 5. THE
TRACK FORECAST IS A BLEND OF THE FASTER CONSENSUS OF THE GLOBAL AND
HURRICANE MODELS AND THE SLOWER PREVIOUS ADVISORY.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 16/1500Z 20.2N 61.3W 75 KT
12HR VT 17/0000Z 23.5N 59.5W 70 KT
24HR VT 17/1200Z 28.0N 56.9W 65 KT
36HR VT 18/0000Z 31.3N 54.3W 60 KT
48HR VT 18/1200Z 33.4N 51.9W 55 KT
72HR VT 19/1200Z 38.0N 45.0W 55 KT
96HR VT 20/1200Z 40.0N 34.5W 50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
120HR VT 21/1200Z 40.0N 23.0W 40 KT...EXTRATROPICAL

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FORECASTER LANDSEA/STEWART